Gupta-linked adviser was barking instructions, hadn’t met Van Rooyen

Macanda further told the commission that it was evident in the meeting that Bobat and Van Rooyen didn’t know each other, despite Bobat being the minister’s adviser.

She recalled how when Bobat asked why the minister had not called him, he (Van Rooyen) said he didn’t have Bobat’s number. 

“Bobat said to the minister: ‘I called you, why didn’t you return my call?’ The minister then said: ‘Oh, I have been getting a lot of phone calls, people congratulating me and the thing is, I do not have your number, so I could not return your call’,” Macanda recalled.

“I was flabbergasted to say the least, I was shocked by his manner towards the minister because he was quite dismissive but also, if he doesn’t have his  number, then how (did) he become the minister’s adviser?” asked Macanda.

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