{"id":33370,"date":"2012-01-13T02:04:43","date_gmt":"2012-01-13T02:04:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ghanamma.net\/2012\/01\/film-review-of-madonnas-wallis-movie-w-e-priceless-cartier-jewels-and-exquisite-dior-dresses-are-the-real-stars\/"},"modified":"2012-01-13T02:04:43","modified_gmt":"2012-01-13T02:04:43","slug":"film-review-of-madonnas-wallis-movie-w-e-priceless-cartier-jewels-and-exquisite-dior-dresses-are-the-real-stars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ghanamma.com\/2012\/01\/13\/film-review-of-madonnas-wallis-movie-w-e-priceless-cartier-jewels-and-exquisite-dior-dresses-are-the-real-stars\/","title":{"rendered":"Film review of Madonna&#8217;s Wallis movie W.E.: Priceless Cartier jewels and exquisite Dior dresses are the real  stars"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- google_ad_section_start(name=s2) --><\/p>\n<p>\nBy<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/home\/search.html?s=&#038;authornamef=Nicole+Lampert\" rel=\"nofollow\">Nicole Lampert<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Last updated at 2:04 AM on 13th January 2012<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/13\/article-2085906-0F6A6F8100000578-721_233x423.jpg\" width=\"233\" height=\"423\" alt=\"Andrea Riseborough plays Wallis Simpson in the film W.E. which is out next Friday\" class=\"blkBorder\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Andrea Riseborough plays Wallis Simpson in the film W.E. which is out next Friday<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>Madonna has never been someone who does things by halves.\u00a0\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>So when she married film director Guy Ritchie and moved to England, feeling &#8216;sort of lost and a little bit like an outsider&#8217; she says, she decided to work her hardest to fit in. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;I\u00a0 thought, OK, if I&#8217;m going to make myself more comfortable in this country, I&#8217;m going to have to learn some of its history&#8217;, Madonna explains.\u00a0\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;I began with Henry VIII and worked my way up to Edward VII, and I stopped there because I was so struck with what he&#8217;d done. He gave up his throne for the woman he loved. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;I was intrigued and mystified. Why would he do this? Men since the beginning of time have fought to get on the throne. Men are power-seeking animals, so why would this man run away from it?\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;What did this woman have that would inspire him to make such a great sacrifice? I wanted to know more about her.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>The more Madonna learned about Wallis the closer she felt to her. They were both Americans struggling to fit into the British Establishment.\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>They were the most famous women of their day and style icons who constantly had their characters pored over and demonised. Both were criticised for their ambition. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;I became completely and utterly swept up in the subject. I developed an unconscious attraction to Wallis. She&#8217;d come to England from the USA and found herself\u00a0 being treated like an outsider,&#8217; Madonna says. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;That was the connection between us, although in time I realized I was welcome here, unlike Wallis, who was never accepted.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Madonna became obsessed with the story and her fascination with Wallis far outlasted her eight-year marriage to Guy.\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> She learned that Wallis had once lived around the corner from her home in central London when her affair with Edward started, although she was still married to businessman Ernest Simpson. Madonna says she would sit outside the apartment &#8216;like a stalker&#8217;, as she tried to put herself in Wallis&#8217; shoes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"images_4142914_37\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/12\/article-2085906-0F677C0600000578-610_468x387.jpg\" alt=\"Attention to detail: James D'arcy, right, who plays Edward VIII, had to learn to dance, shoot, ride horses and play the bagpipes \" height=\"387\" width=\"468\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Happy couple: Andrea Riseborough&#8217;s Wallis plays to James D&#8217;Arcy&#8217;s Edward VIII, in Madonna&#8217;s &#8216;three year labour of love&#8217; about the force that moves us all<\/p>\n<p><span>She wanted to make a film of the story, but in spite of her superstar status opening many doors, found the odds were stacked against her.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> When she was turned down from buying the rights to a new Wallis book she was thinking about ending the project until a chance coincidence. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Answering a knock on her front door one night, nobody was there &#8211; but parked outside was a van with the name Montague Removals on the side. Montague was Wallis&#8217;s maiden name. &#8216;I thought, &#8220;right, that&#8217;s a sign&#8221;, recalls the singer. So she persevered. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>The result is W.E., Madonna&#8217;s cinematic re-telling of the Wallis story, which she calls &#8216;a three-year labour of love&#8217;.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>The title &#8211; which Madonna pronounces as &#8216;we&#8217; &#8211; comes from the way Wallis and Edward always ended their letters to each other, binding their initials.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;I never saw it as a simple love story&#8217;, explains Madonna.&#8217; Nor is it particularly sentimental. I think love is impossible to describe or explain &#8211; it&#8217;s like trying to understand the nature of God, or the laws of the universe.\u00a0\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;What I do know is that it&#8217;s the force that moves us all and without it we couldn&#8217;t exist&#8217;.<\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/13\/article-2085906-0F68152100000578-445_233x348.jpg\" width=\"233\" height=\"348\" alt=\"Andrea Riseborough is directed by Madonna in a scene from the film\" class=\"blkBorder\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Andrea Riseborough is directed by Madonna in a scene from the film<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>The film is a two handed look at Wallis; the story is told through the prism of a modern American, Wally Winthrop (her mother was such a fan that she was named after Wallis) who &#8211; as her marriage collapses around her &#8211; becomes obsessed with the story of what she considers the greatest love affair of the 20th century.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Like Madonna before her, Wally becomes entranced with the minutiae of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor&#8217;s lives as their possessions go on sale at Sothebys. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>In 1998 a sale of just some of their possessions reached \u00a315million. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Wally discovers the prosaic truths behind their romance as she reads their private letters. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>With Madonna &#8211; a self-confessed control freak &#8211; micro-managing\u00a0 as director, writer, and with a producer credit, filming did not get off to a good start.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Several actors, including Ewan McGregor and Margo Stilley, changed their mind about taking roles before they had even reached the set. And\u00a0 another producer, David Parfitt, and casting expert Nina Gold both also walked out citing creative differences with Madonna .<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>But no-one could divert Madonna from\u00a0 her clear vision of what she wanted. She put her heart and soul &#8211; and her house, jewellery and furniture &#8211; into the film.\u00a0\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;I literally robbed my own house to dress the set&#8217;, she says. &#8216;Half the paintings and drapes came from my home. Every day we would go there and pick up different bits of furniture&#8217;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>She insisted\u00a0 on using Art Deco furniture and wallpaper for the re-created Wallis apartment, even though she was told by set decorator Celia Bobak that the real place had been decorated with some good 18th century antiques.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"images_4142867_37\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/12\/article-2085906-0CA714AE000005DC-928_224x255.jpg\" alt=\"Actress Andrea Riseborough as Wallis Simpson, left\" imageheight=\"\" pms=\"\" height=\"255\" width=\"224\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"images_4142890_37\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/12\/article-2085906-0F5B83BE00000578-940_224x255.jpg\" alt=\"Wallis Simpson, right, who married the Prince of Wales\" imageheight=\"\" pms=\"\" height=\"255\" width=\"224\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Inside story: Andrea Riseborough, left, as Wallis Simpson, right,<br \/>\nenjoyed wearing recreations of some of Wallis&#8217; most iconic jewels and<br \/>\noutfits<\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;But as this was Madonna&#8217;s project, and it was her personal approach,\u00a0 we had to take our lead from her&#8217;, she says.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Actor<br \/>\nJames D&#8217;Arcy, who plays Edward, recalls how in one scene champagne was spilled on Madonna&#8217;s original Art Deco chairs. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;We<br \/>\nwere doing this scene where Edward and Wallis are having a party but<br \/>\nhalf the people have fallen asleep so we their spike their drinks with<br \/>\nBenzedrine. Madonna told everyone, &#8220;now I want you all to look you are<br \/>\nhaving a wild party, but stay away from those two chairs&#8221;.&#8217; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Madonna&#8217;s iron rule earned her the nickname &#8216;God&#8217; from D&#8217;Arcy.\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Before<br \/>\nfilming, several actors\u00a0 had to undergo a number of lessons including<br \/>\ndancing and deportment. Oscar Isaac who plays Wally&#8217;s love interest had<br \/>\nto learn the piano while James also had to learn to shoot,\u00a0 ride horses<br \/>\nand play the bagpipes. <\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/13\/article-2085906-0F6B70A100000578-140_468x319.jpg\" width=\"468\" height=\"319\" alt=\"Madonna and cast at the Premiere at The Odeon on Kensington High Street. Left to right, Andrea Riseborough, James D'Arcy, Madonna, Richard Coyle and Natalie Dorma\" class=\"blkBorder\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Madonna and cast at the Premiere at The Odeon on Kensington High Street. Left to right, Andrea Riseborough, James D&#8217;Arcy, Madonna, Richard Coyle and Natalie Dorma<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>Says<br \/>\nD&#8217;Arcy &#8216;I went to see a guy about learning how to play the bagpipes and<br \/>\nhe said, &#8216;you can&#8217;t do it in six weeks &#8211; it takes at least a year &#8211; the<br \/>\nonly thing I can teach you is how to look like you are playing them&#8217;. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;So<br \/>\nI wrote to Madonna and told her what the man had said. She wrote back,<br \/>\n&#8216;just because somebody says you can&#8217;t do something doesn&#8217;t mean you<br \/>\nshould listen to them&#8217;.\u00a0 <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>And so James learned how to play the bagpipes in six weeks &#8211; although the scene was cut from the final film.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>And<br \/>\nthen there were the clothes. Her friend the milliner Stephen Jones, who<br \/>\nmade hats for the film and had a cameo appearance on screen,\u00a0 says,<br \/>\n&#8216;She worked herself to the bone for this project. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;She<br \/>\nran a tight ship and expected everyone else to\u00a0 go that extra mile for<br \/>\nher. People were thrilled to be working with her &#8211; she knows what she is<br \/>\ntalking about and she is gracious with it too.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Stephen would see her after each hat was designed, once again when it was finished and for a third time as the costume went on. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>She<br \/>\nwould demand changes even as the scene was about to be filmed. &#8216;Small<br \/>\nalterations were done on the spot as Madonna might say, &#8216;I need a more<br \/>\nopaque veil&#8217; or &#8216;I need this to be smaller&#8217;,&#8217; he says. But then he is<br \/>\nused to working with her. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/13\/article-2085906-0F69BDB800000578-495_468x355.jpg\" width=\"468\" height=\"355\" alt=\"Sparkling: James D'arcy and Andrea Riseborough - in exquisite jewels and gown - dance in a romantic scene from W.E.\" class=\"blkBorder\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Sparkling: James D&#8217;arcy and Andrea Riseborough &#8211; in exquisite jewels and gown &#8211; dance in a romantic scene from W.E.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>&#8216;Madonna<br \/>\nwas one of the first to combine a strong sense of style with her<br \/>\nsinging and she has always known exactly what she wants. Everyone has<br \/>\nsaid how wonderful the film looks but that is no surprise to me; if<br \/>\nMadonna is doing something I cannot imagine it being any other way.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Madonna<br \/>\nused her own long standing relationships with fashion houses to beg<br \/>\nborrow and steal costumes for the always stylish scenes. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;We had great<br \/>\nfun putting it together,&#8217; says the film&#8217;s wardrobe mistress Arianne<br \/>\nPhillips, who has worked with the singer on many projects over the last<br \/>\ntwo decades. &#8216;We went to fashion houses such as Vionnet and Dior and<br \/>\nasked if they could re-create some of the dresses that Wallis famously<br \/>\nwore.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Similarly Madonna<br \/>\nand Arianne spoke to jewelers at Cartier and Van Cleef &#038; Arpels<br \/>\nabout recreating some of Wallis&#8217;s most iconic and fabulous gems. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Madonna<br \/>\nalso brought in her own collection of jewels for Andrea and Australian<br \/>\nactress Abbie Cornish who plays Wally to wear. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;Every<br \/>\nmorning we would have this lovely calming ritual; it was a moment of<br \/>\ncomplicity when Madonna would adorn the Duchess with jewels,&#8217; says<br \/>\nAndrea. &#8216;But then at every other point of the day I would be followed<br \/>\naround by six burly security guards and that was not as calming.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Despite<br \/>\nthe minders being\u00a0 there to ensure that the many priceless jewels did<br \/>\nnot go missing there was one expensive loss. A Cartier replica of<br \/>\nWallis&#8217;s cross bracelet &#8211; Edward bought Wallis jeweled crosses for<br \/>\ndifferent occasions to celebrate their love &#8211; came undone during a beach<br \/>\nscene in Cannes. Crew members borrowed snorkeling masks to search the<br \/>\nsea, but to no avail. <\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/13\/article-2085906-0F656C0000000578-497_233x328.jpg\" width=\"233\" height=\"328\" alt=\"Love story: Madonna says she has never felt as loved by a man as Wallis Simpson was by King Edward VIII\" class=\"blkBorder\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Love story: Madonna says she has never felt as loved by a man as Wallis Simpson was by King Edward VIII<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>&#8216;I felt<br \/>\nawful,&#8217; says Andrea. &#8216;We had to do this scene where we run through the<br \/>\nsurf before he drops this tiny emerald cross in the sand. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>It was going<br \/>\nreally well and we had done the scene five times before we walked out to<br \/>\nget some notes from Madonna and that was when I realized the bracelet<br \/>\nhad completely detached itself and fallen into the water.&#8217; <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Another<br \/>\nbracelet Cartier made for Andrea was so beautiful that when shooting<br \/>\nfinished, Madonna\u00a0 said she&#8217;d like to keep it.\u00a0 Cartier wouldn&#8217;t agree,<br \/>\nbut they made her another one instead. &#8216;See&#8217;, says Madonna.\u00a0 &#8216;Not everyone says yes to me.&#8217;\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Perhaps<br \/>\nthe most controversial element about the film is the way Madonna<br \/>\nportrays Wallis &#8211; more positively\u00a0 than ever seen before on film.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>According<br \/>\nto this retelling, Wallis did not have Nazi sympathies, was desperate<br \/>\nto be a mother, never wanted Edward to give up his throne<br \/>\nfor her &#8211; and even tried to break off their relationship. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;I<br \/>\nthink Wallis Simpson was much maligned in the history books,&#8217;\u00a0 says<br \/>\nMadonna. &#8216;I think that people didn&#8217;t understand the choice the King had<br \/>\nmade so they tried to diminish her as a human being because he had given<br \/>\nup his position. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;She<br \/>\nwasn&#8217;t a saint by any stretch of the imagination but she was a human<br \/>\nbeing and it was important to me to show that human side to her.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Despite the controversy, it is a revisionistic view of Wallis shared by at least one historian. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Anne<br \/>\nSebba, who like Wally in the film found some genuinely new letters from<br \/>\nWallis, brought out her book That Woman as Madonna was making W.E. but<br \/>\nshe says they both came to the same conclusion about her. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;Madonna<br \/>\nhas really understood a critical part of Wallis,&#8217; says Anne. &#8216;It is<br \/>\nwhat Wallis called her dual nature; her fearfulness on the one hand and<br \/>\non the other hand her driving ambition.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>She<br \/>\nadds: &#8216;I could, if I wanted to sound clever, take issue with historical<br \/>\ninaccuracies in the film but it doesn&#8217;t matter if a date is fudged.<br \/>\nWallis has been misunderstood for years and what people don&#8217;t realize is<br \/>\nthat she did not want to be Queen. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i.dailymail.co.uk\/i\/pix\/2012\/01\/13\/article-2085906-0F5F27A800000578-518_468x397.jpg\" width=\"468\" height=\"397\" alt=\"Secret love code: The King, when he was Prince of Wales, often doodled the letters W.E., their Christian name initials, on scraps of paper and on this photograph he wrote, WE are two\" class=\"blkBorder\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Secret love code: The King, when he was Prince of Wales, often doodled the letters W.E., their Christian name initials, on scraps of paper and on this photograph he wrote, WE are two<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>&#8216;She<br \/>\ntried to get out of the relationship &#8211; she never thought it would last &#8211;<br \/>\nbut the more she tried to leave him the more he behaved like a petulant<br \/>\nschool boy and refused to let her go. He threatened suicide if she<br \/>\nwent. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;I do think Madonna<br \/>\nromanticises Wallis &#8211; unlike her I don&#8217;t think Wallis was maternal. She<br \/>\nalso flatters Edward &#8211; he is too witty and charming but I think it is<br \/>\nfair enough to put those down to artistic license. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>&#8216;For a long time<br \/>\nWallis has been mistreated by history &#8211; she has been called a Nazi (she<br \/>\nwasn&#8217;t although she was pro-German), a spy, a hermaphrodite. She could<br \/>\nnever express her own opinions so it is nice to see this interpretation<br \/>\nof her.&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>The film is not out<br \/>\nfor another week but critics already appear divided over W.E. All, however, are agreed that it is a beautiful<br \/>\nlooking film, although many question the modern element of the story and<br \/>\nwonder if Madonna is going a step too far in trying to completely<br \/>\nrehabilitate Wallis. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>The<br \/>\nonly thing certain is that the \u00a318million movie is far from being a<br \/>\ntotal failure and the film has already been nominated for several film<br \/>\nawards .<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>That has to be<br \/>\nconsidered as an achievement in itself as Madonna has not had a film hit<br \/>\nin the 15 years since Evita. While she is known as the Queen of Pop,<br \/>\nher movie career has always been more troublesome. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>After<br \/>\nthe panning she got for Swept Away, the straight-to-video film she made<br \/>\nwith Guy, lesser mortals would have given up the idea of a film career<br \/>\naltogether. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>But it is a<br \/>\ntimely insight into the way Madonna works. They said she couldn&#8217;t make\u00a0 a<br \/>\nsuccessful movie if she tried. She may just prove them wrong. <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>W.E.<br \/>\nis out next Friday (January 20). Madonna, Andrea Riseborough and James<br \/>\nD&#8217;Arcy appear on The Graham Norton Show on January 13 at 10.35pm on<br \/>\nBBC1.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- google_ad_section_end(name=s2) --><\/p>\n<p>View article:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/femail\/article-2085906\/Film-review-Madonnas-Wallis-movie-W-E--Priceless-Cartier-jewels-exquisite-Dior-dresses-real-stars.html?ITO=1490\" title=\"Film review of Madonna's Wallis movie W.E.: Priceless Cartier jewels and exquisite Dior dresses are the real  stars\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Film review of Madonna&#8217;s Wallis movie W.E.: Priceless Cartier jewels and exquisite Dior dresses are the real  stars<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> By Nicole Lampert Last updated at 2:04 AM on 13th January 2012 \u00a0 Andrea Riseborough plays Wallis Simpson in the film W.E. which is out next Friday Madonna has never been someone who does things by halves.\u00a0\u00a0 So when she married film director Guy Ritchie and moved to England, feeling &#8216;sort of lost and a little bit like an outsider&#8217; she says, she decided to work her hardest to fit in<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33370","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","category-business"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - 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